Metabolic Surge Interview with Nick Nilsson
Patrick McGuire (PM) www.EmpoweredNutritionMealPlans.com and
Nick Nilsson (NN) www.MetabolicSurgeProgram.com
I recently had the honor of getting Nick Nilsson the crazy mad scientist of insane exercises and training that actually work and stimulate muscle from a million angles.
It was great to squeeze some time out of Nick as he is closing in on some amazing new ground breaking books and prepping for a month of down time with his family over the Christmas Holidays.
Below you will find the snap shots, bits and bites of the interview we recently had. To hear it all for yourself, you can listen in here:
Nick Nilsson: Metabolic Surge Training Program – Listen to the Interview CLICK HERE
Without holding you up any more just go ahead and dive right in.
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PM: Nick, I am excited to have you on this podcast today. I think I can tell our friends a bit about you, but will then turn it over to you to give us the real you.
First of all I know Nick is a real deal trainer and innovator. They guy keeps busting tail in the gym, his home gym and outdoors every day looking to better himself and to come up with a new and innovative sometime crazy way to stimulate muscle. Today I am interviewing Nick for his pretty potent system Metabolic Surge Program as it ties in strongly with my beliefs, practices and teachings at EmpoweredNutrition.com in building a lean, sculpted, powerful and functional physique that looks good and how his programs can help.
I will also include links to his other products in our show notes for you to check out. Alright let’s get into this. So tell me… Who is Nick Nilsson?
NN: Well basically, I’m a mad scientist…in a good way, of course! I’m constantly experimenting with new exercises and training techniques and have pretty much defined myself, as it relates to training, by constant creativity.
My focus has always been on getting the best results possible for the effort I’m putting in as well as just having FUN in the gym. I’ve been in the online training business for about 10 years now…I just love being able to get all this great stuff out to a big audience.
PM: How long have you been training?
NN: I’ve been training about 18 years now. Started when I was 17 years old and about 145 lbs soaking wet. Was the typical skinny guy, wanting to get big…and actually accomplished it pretty well within my first year of training.
PM: Nick, it’s a bit insane out there these days with all the self proclaimed gurus and pros, tell me what do you pull to back up your work, what degrees, certifications do you carry with the initials and digits behind your name?
NN: I have a degree in Physical Education, covering advanced biomechanics, kinesiology, physiology, anatomy…the whole 9 yards. I’ve also got a degree in psychology as well. I have my personal training certification and spend a lot of time reading up on training techniques, pulling out the best stuff and working with it to improve and innovate.
PM: How many books and programs do you currently have available? (Remember the original podcast and text interview was 12-16-2009)
NN: I’ve got 9 books out right now…everything from unique exercises for specific bodyparts (like The Best Chest Exercises You’ve Never Heard Of” to muscle-building programs to fat loss programs.
PM: OK great, but let’s get serious, names and initials aside, the proof is in the walking around weight. After all you must walk the walk if you are gonna shoot the crap and talk. What’s yours at these days?
NN: I’m about 190 to 200 lbs normally. And I try and stay fairly lean all the time.
PM: All things aside, what is your Favourite Exercise?
NN: That would have to be the trap bar deadlift. To me, there’s nothing better than piling a boatload of weight on the bar and just digging in and pulling it off the ground. I like it better than regular squatting because you can really go for broke – my best deadlift with that bar is 560 lbs. I’ve also done 315 for 30 reps.
Though I have to say, in close second would be lockout partial squats…the kind where you can pile a thousand pounds on the bar and it’s just you against the weight. The highest I’ve hit on that exercise is 1200 lbs and I once did a set of partials for high reps with 950 lbs for 150 reps (that was just NUTS – I was at my very strongest at the time and I think I even bent the bar at the gym I was training at).
PM: Why do you think the Metabolic Surge Program will be so effective with Empowered Nutrition?
NN: The Metabolic Surge program uses very targeted nutrition to go with the training programs… which the Empowered Nutrition meals plans can very easily be tailored to follow the specific nutrient needs of the program, e.g. low-carb, low-fat, etc.
The Empowered meal plans are very targeted and very effective and will really mesh well with the training in the Surge program.
PM: What tips would you give our friends when combining the Metabolic Surge Program and Empowered Nutrition?
NN: The best thing you can do is to first make sure you know the nutrients you’re supposed to be eating during the Surge program and what nutrients make up the specific meal plans in the Empowered Nutrition program. You’re going to need to know how to match up the correct meal plans to the training phase you’re on in the Surge program.
So pretty much having a good understanding of what you’re doing and what’s required nutritionally is very important.
PM: I want to point out that if you go to MetabolicSurgeProgram.com you will see that Nick is giving us a pretty unique package and price. But what really impresses me is that within a few paragraphs Nick asks us to identify what level of training experience we have and with that information he jumps us to the critical information to help us properly assess the program for our needs and training experience. Nick can you elaborate on that for us?
NN: Yep, I wanted to make sure that everybody, no matter what training level they were at, understood that they can use and benefit from the Surge program. In the book, I’ve included a preparation program that walks people through from completely beginner to a Level 1 program that has reduced training volume (fewer sets) and more rest in between sets, so it’s a bit easier.
For the more advanced trainers, I’ve got the main program, which is really challenging, even if you are very advanced.
Pretty much I wanted people to have the idea that this program will work for them and to know what it can do for them, which is really, burn fat extremely quickly while keeping and even building muscle mass.
PM: Nick, there is a lot of advice to training out there. There are literally hundreds of programs that claim to be different. Why is Metabolic Surge Program so different?
NN: The Surge program stands out because of how the training is directly targeted to the specific nutrients you’re eating in each phase of the program. How you train depends on whether you’re eating low-fat or low-carb.
You really need to train completely differently when you’re eating different nutrients. This programs takes advantage of the changing hormonal states that these different nutrients induce in your body.
For example, in the low-carb phase, the training on the last few days is focused on building up lactic acid. Lactic acid causes an increase in Growth Hormone levels but ONLY when insulin levels are low. So by doing this style of training while eating low carb, you’re in that low-insulin state and GH secretion is maximize. This has a great effect on fat loss.
Same thing with low-fat eating – when you come off low-carb eating, you put back carbs and your muscles pull in a lot of nutrients (carbs, protein) and water. This is an extremely anabolic situation and the training is designed to take full advantage of it by focusing your efforts on muscle growth.
PM: OK so I want to share something with you before we go much further. When you go to check out the Metabolic Surge Program and you read up on the entire package you will see that Nick has included some meal plans from Dr. John Berardi. That’s pretty cool, John and I share some history and some similar philosophies when it comes to nutrition. So think of it as a nutritional bonus and do your best to adopt the best of both programs to better enhance your results.
Nick, you and I are both pretty hung up on how nutrition and exercise work together with synergy and you have often heard me saying “Nutrition is for Fat Loss, Exercise is for Muscle Building”. (By the way, Adam is a great Success Story of how he implemented your Metabolic Surge into a bigger picture for a year plus long journey) Now that could be confusing to some, but the act of building and maintaining muscle with exercise is part of the process of burning fat. What are your thoughts on the power of Empowered Nutrition with the Metabolic Surge Program in terms of Energy, Recuperation, Cardio and Fat Loss?
NN: I like to use the analogy of your body as a car…muscle is the engine that burns the fuel but to really get the best performance out of your muscles, you need the fuel it with the best fuel you can! And that is where Empowered Nutrition comes in.
It helps you put the best possible fuel into your body, helping it run with maximum efficiency. It really makes a HUGE different when provide great fuel like this – the results can be downright astonishing!
PM: Nick, now I have to butt heads with you for a minute. I will go on record over and over again stating optimal results require the 3 pillars of performance and those 3 pillars are Nutrition, Exercise and Supplements in that order. You say Supplements are not required, but then help everyone better understand how they can be effectively used to their advantage for fat loss and muscle building. Give me some of your opinions and supplements you would recommend if ever asked?
NN: I’m actually a big fan of supplements. You don’t HAVE to take them in order for the program to work but to really get the most out of the program I DO recommend some basic nutritionally-oriented, proven supplements…things like program, vitamins, minerals, fish oil, creatine, glutamine, that kind of thing.
I stay away from fat burners and other supplements that are marketing-oriented and basically unproven in the real world.
You don’t absolutely need them, but I highly recommend then.
PM: On behalf of our friends listening to this I want to thank you for taking time out of your hectic schedule to help us understand the benefits of a powerful metabolic boosting and fat incinerating, muscle building program that works amazingly well with Empowered Nutrition and meshes tightly with my own practices and coaching philosphies, thanks Nick.
For more information, 5 unique bonuses and solid savings just check out www.MetabolicSurgeProgram.com
I also want to give you more. If you are looking to add slabs of muscle to your physique and you do decide to get the Metabolic Surge Program, just email me with your receipt number and I will give you 2 MORE Muscle Building Meal Plans (one for Lean Muscle Building and the other for MASS building).
Again these are totally Free as a Bonus Bonus Gift from EmpoweredNutrition.com to help you achieve your goals faster.
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Here’s a little background right from Nick:
Ever since I first touched a weight, I’ve been hunting for new and innovative ways to build muscle and strength fast. In that time, I’ve discovered some pretty amazing stuff. Now I’m going to share this information with everybody who wants to build serious muscle.
I have a degree in physical education and psychology and have been a personal trainer for the past 7 years. I also run a health and fitness enthusiast website and have authored 9 books on weight training, Check out his latest at www.MetabolicSurgeProgram.com
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Nick Nilsson
Vice-President
BetterU, Inc.
Vital Stats
Age: 29
Height: 5’11″
Weight: 215 lbs
Years Bodybuilding: 14
Favorite Bodyparts: Back and Triceps
Favorite Exercise: Deadlifts
Favorite Supplements: Protein, Glutamine and Creatine
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